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147 Mr S. M. Bruce, High Commissioner in the United Kingdom, to Mr John Curtin, Prime Minister

Cablegram 112 LONDON, 1 December 1941, 9.27 p.m.


Page' and I had a long talk with the Prime Minister [2] this
morning, based upon the two first paragraphs of your telegram 762
to the Dominions Office [3] and the third last and penultimate
paragraphs of your telegram 7509. [4]

We pointed out to him that at War Cabinet meeting which Page
attended he had urged the necessity for an understanding as to
what we should do in the event of a Japanese attack against
Thailand, Netherlands East Indies, Russia or Kunming and the Burma
Road. We stressed that no such understanding had yet been arrived
at and that the failure to have done so had resulted in the urgent
necessity of arriving at a decision as to the action to be taken
with regard to the Kra Isthmus without proper time for
consideration and involving the danger of misunderstandings.

We urged that this position could not be allowed to continue but
that an understanding was necessary as to the course to be
followed in the event of any of the four aggressions contemplated
being undertaken, and that the first step to this end was that we
should know clearly what was the attitude of the United Kingdom

In reply to this the Prime Minister said that he was perfectly
prepared to make clear the attitude of the United Kingdom
Government. He said that it was to march in line with the United
States and read to us his personal message to the President which
has been sent to you in Winch telegram. [5]

We then had a long discussion on the whole position in the Far
East which went far to clarify the Prime Minister's attitude on
the question of general policy to be pursued and defined with
precision the United Kingdom Government's attitude with regard to
the Kra Peninsula.

On this latter point Dominions Office is cabling you tonight. [6]

With regard to the general position the Prime Minister's attitude
is that in the event of Japanese aggression in any of the four
contemplated areas we should not anticipate American action but
immediately support it. His reason for this is that he feels that
American opinion will react favourably to a war which America has
entered in defence of her own interests but would be inclined to
be antagonistic to the idea of entering a war into which we had
already entered and America was coming to our assistance. He
admitted, however, that in the event of America not taking action
we would have to review the position and take our own decision,
probably within a few days, as to whether we would not have to
take action irrespective of what the United States was doing. He
stressed however that were the attack upon British territory, e.g.

Hong Kong, we would immediately declare war.

In discussion we again put the points that were put by Page to the
War Cabinet 7 but stressed to the Prime Minister that we were not
at the moment arguing the case as to what the exact policy should
be but trying to ensure an understanding being arrived at upon
policy prior to the happening of any of the possible
eventualities. The Prime Minister expressed his desire that this
should be done.

The conversation this morning has done much to clarify the
position but we think that it is desirable that you should now
send a telegram defining your views as to the form of
understanding that should be arrived at.

The basic divergence of opinion as to the policy to be followed is
between the point of view held by the Prime Minister as indicated
above and the point of view of those who maintain that American
co-operation can best be secured in the event of Japanese
aggression by the British Empire immediately resisting.

For your personal information this divergence exists in the United
Kingdom on the subject, the Prime Minister strongly holding the
former view and certain other Ministers the latter. The same
divergence also exists among the Dominions, Canada holding the
former view and South Africa and New Zealand the latter.

We also think that the conversation has brought home to the Prime
Minister the necessity of getting an understanding with the
Dominions and also the danger of the policy which he was inclined
to pursue of only taking his hurdles as he comes to them.


1 Special Representative in the United Kingdom.

2 Winston Churchill.

3 Document 142.

4 Document 135.

5 See cablegram Winch 7 of 1 December in PRO : DO 114/113. It
repeated Churchill's plea to Roosevelt to consider making 'a plain
declaration, secret or public as may be thought best, that any
further act of aggression by Japan will lead immediately to the
gravest consequences'.

6 The dispatch of this cablegram appears to have been delayed by
the receipt in London of Lord Halifax's report of his conversation
with Roosevelt (see Document 152). See also Document 157.

7 See Document 110.

[AA : A816, 19/304/431]
Last Updated: 11 September 2013
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